Comments on: The CIA’s “not torture” torture http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/2007/07/23/the-cias-not-torture-torture/ Thoughts by Stephen Soldz on war, peace, politics, psychoanalysis, and research methods Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:18:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Valtin http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/2007/07/23/the-cias-not-torture-torture/#comment-94631 Valtin Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:28:49 +0000 http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/2007/07/23/the-cias-not-torture-torture/#comment-94631 Ack. The quote didn't seem to come through. Here it is: "A senior military official, briefing reporters at the Pentagon, said the Army has completed or is still conducting criminal probes into 33 cases involving the deaths of 32 detainees in Iraq and five in Afghanistan. "The new tally amounts to an increase of eight cases over the 25 reported on May 4 by the Army's top criminal investigator as the scandal over abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison was erupting. "It also pointed to wider problems beyond the Abu Ghraib facility, raising the possibility that coercive interrogations and other mistreatment by U.S. soldiers may have resulted in the deaths of some detainees." URL is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46659-2004May21.html Ack. The quote didn’t seem to come through. Here it is:

“A senior military official, briefing reporters at the Pentagon, said the Army has completed or is still conducting criminal probes into 33 cases involving the deaths of 32 detainees in Iraq and five in Afghanistan.

“The new tally amounts to an increase of eight cases over the 25 reported on May 4 by the Army’s top criminal investigator as the scandal over abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison was erupting.

“It also pointed to wider problems beyond the Abu Ghraib facility, raising the possibility that coercive interrogations and other mistreatment by U.S. soldiers may have resulted in the deaths of some detainees.”

URL is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46659-2004May21.html

]]> By: Valtin http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/2007/07/23/the-cias-not-torture-torture/#comment-94630 Valtin Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:27:45 +0000 http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/2007/07/23/the-cias-not-torture-torture/#comment-94630 Great commentary and great coverage, Stephen. The selection from the MTP interview is devastating to their approach. But on some things, the Admiral is out and out lying. U.S. forces have been involved in rape (at Abu Ghraib), and a number of interrogatees have died (or been murdered) while in U.S. MI or CIA or Special Ops detention. So they do murder: below is from a 5/22/2004 (!) article in the Washington Post. <blockquote cite="A senior military official, briefing reporters at the Pentagon, said the Army has completed or is still conducting criminal probes into 33 cases involving the deaths of 32 detainees in Iraq and five in Afghanistan. The new tally amounts to an increase of eight cases over the 25 reported on May 4 by the Army's top criminal investigator as the scandal over abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison was erupting. It also pointed to wider problems beyond the Abu Ghraib facility, raising the possibility that coercive interrogations and other mistreatment by U.S. soldiers may have resulted in the deaths of some detainees."></blockquote> Great commentary and great coverage, Stephen. The selection from the MTP interview is devastating to their approach.

But on some things, the Admiral is out and out lying. U.S. forces have been involved in rape (at Abu Ghraib), and a number of interrogatees have died (or been murdered) while in U.S. MI or CIA or Special Ops detention.

So they do murder: below is from a 5/22/2004 (!) article in the Washington Post.

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